It looked like the DAs men were pretty serious about certifying this one. But his ailment worried him less than the opposing counsel and the judge who was hearing the case. Yes. On June 9, she told Anna that things had fallen through and she was going to have to wait to kill them. Her cause and manner of death are still being investigated. It wasnt late at night. Who did you run away from home with? Either her calm appearance had impressed the jurors that she was an intelligent, responsible girl, or it had given them evidence that she was a cold-hearted killer. And she was still going at approximately 12 that night, is that correct? No, not recently. It was just kind of strange for her. And you told him to leave it alone? I dont know what is true and what I have dreamed? It was all up to Lucinda. Today is August what? She denied that she had talked to Anna on either Wednesday or Thursday of that week. The only motive she offered the police was that her parents had grounded her for two weeks and she was angry because of it. I wanted him to know that she knew how much he cared, and that he really was an incredible person in her life, and he played a bigger role than I think he knew.. In another photo, the reporter showed off the scooter she planned to ride around on while her foot healed after surgery. Her screams aroused her husbands attention. We were like sisters, we fought and we enjoyed each other, Rudee said. He died of a broken heart.. How many times did she tell you she was going to kill her parents? In May of 2021 after missing a scheduled appearance at Mile 0 Fest in Key West, Florida, Lucinda revealed she suffered a stroke on November 17th, 2020. A bit later he heard a banging at the back door. Her parents came home about 8. Never even said it in jest or jokingly. Not at this time; I have never worn one. It was like it helped to release something.. All Rights Reserved. By the time she arrived at the hospital, Spencer was in surgery and all Rudee could do was wait and hope her friend would pull through. You were better for just meeting him. He was quiet, he didnt go anywhere, that wasnt like him. , after he went out to get her breakfast on January 14. His blood pressure went way down, Gail Lile said. Lucinda Stout took the stand to a packed house. A memorial stone with a plaque honoring Lile sits just to the side of an still unfinished and unnamed trail on Heil Valley Ranch open space, not far from where he died. Which memorial do you think is a duplicate of Lucinda Guy (74851627)? Rudee tells everyone she can about Spencer and Lucas Lile. When? He was convicted in the 1987 deadly robbery of Jeffrey Young . you know, you cant be a perfect son unless you have a perfect father. He got Robert to admit his father had been upset about a problem with drugs. Burnham then pounded at the boys failure to testify to the same facts at the certification hearing: You didnt think it was important? After hammering away at Stouts credibility, Lancaster moved to the witness extra-marital relationships. But he knew what he had to do. Gary Nichols (best friend of Jimmy) is still a detective for the Peru Police Dept. The state made much of the fact that blood matching Sharon Stouts had been found on Lucindas shirt and jeans. Lancaster shifted gears. Yes, sir. Its in the old part of Louisville, Louisville police Sgt. For him, there is no anger over his wife's death, because it's overshadowed by too much unknown. . Uh huh. Well, I cried mostly.. . Father turns on daughter; daughter turns on father. They must have been desperate to take on this project or the money was too good. To a politically astute prosecutor like Wade, the message was clear: Bring the hammer down on juveniles. On paper, someone like Rattler losing his job does not make sense. Hed put up the best defense he could think of for Lucinda Stout. I dont know. The Boulder County Coroner's Office on Thursday identified the woman killed by a falling tree limb during Tuesday's wind storm. How many times did she say it? Gaither continued. This isnt fair. A favor to a friend had turned into six months of the toughest criminal work hed ever done, for a court-appointed attorneys fee of $3,000. Lancaster questioned the officers, zeroing in on the question of whether Lucinda actually understood what her rights were. No, sir. Lancaster didnt know how much damage hed done. It disputes Grigsons methodology on just about every count. Paige Lucinda Spencer, 41, of Walker Street in Concord, was arrested at 11:40 p.m. on Aug. 10, on a simple assault charge. Gail Lile remembers her son coming home the night Spencer was hospitalized. She encouraged him to talk to her about it, the first time Lile had told someone outside his family or Spencers about what happened. Her father left the store for about an hour and a half. She said the first time she talked to her was Friday night about 10 at the grocery store. Stout admitted to some hed had six to nine years earlier. Lancaster moved on. . He hoped that Mounts test results could convince the jury that Lucinda Stout was not a threat to society. Copyright 2020 WDRB Media. Grigson had been appointed to test Lucinda Stout only to assist the juvenile court to determine her competency, maturity, and sophistication. When he subsequently was allowed to testify to her purported sociopathic personality and potential for future violence, the result was a 99-year sentence. Brings new meaning to the phrase Sunday Funday. She even gave fans several glimpses of what happens between takes on the program in pictures posted on Instagram. No matter what happens with the case, Jerome Strange believes he will never have closure. Theyre both hard to understand for me. ***SPOILERS*** Somewhat confusing crime drama that's based on a true story, maybe that's why it's so confusing, about this parolee Lucinda Michaels, Cheryl Ladd, who gets involved with this very very very successful lawyer the sweet and very likable Clay Spencer, Mike Farrell, and takes him for the ride of his life; straight into the city morgue. You hate your dad so much that now you want to blame him for this crime, dont you? When^ her mother took out a v bag of trash, Lucinda followed her, knife in hand. Karl said the last time Bobby Stout had been there was a year and a half ago. Peter Spencer was killed on December 12 while on a hunting trip in Pennsylvania. The veteran jurist is the only judge at the courthouse who actually looks like one. Dont you know how you breathe? She gets to have her own radio, and sometimes she and a friend jog to keep fit. Directly after arrest. What Happened To Lucinda Barry In Psych The reason for Lucinda Barry's departure after Psych 's pilot given within the show was her affair with Lassiter, which was, of course, against department protocol. He had the bravery to pick her up and hold her and be with her so she wasnt just there by herself, Rudee said. Hed like to give it a whirl, he says. . Gaithers manner as he went to question Anna told the defense attorneys what they already knew that the prosecutors missing link wasnt missing any more. We had a lot of fun.. Bethani Puzo used to work on the trails with Lile in his first stint with the county, meaning the two spent hours in the Boulder County wilderness with just each other for company. . He had dropped out of school in the ninth grade and worked at various mechanics jobs. Lucinda went to call Anna, he said, and he struggled to his feet, went out the back door and stumbled to his neighbors house, where he fell to the floor again. No, sir. Gail Lile isnt sure if Spencers family will be able to make it, but no matter what happens, Spencer will always be a part of Liles story, and he a part of hers. They were facing each other, and the tree had hit Lucas toes, but he was wearing steel-toed boots.. She tries to go after the money of a friend of a detective. Lara is a mom to kids Duff and Katharine, whom she shares with her ex-husband, David Haffenreffer. But Burnham also got the doctor to admit that his test showed Lucinda to have a psychopathic deviance. It was, however, in the normal range for an adolescent. Mrs. Karl said Bobby told her in the hospital he and Sharon had been quarrelling bad over that girl lately. At the time she thought he meant Lucinda. The note in the book was addressed to Lucas: We the family of Lucinda Spencer will be forever grateful for the care you gave her in the last hours of her life. They didnt ask me and I did not . It sounded like hed been mentally affected, when he had only been physically exhausted at a couple of times. . Me personally cant imagine anyone else but her to have done it as Jimmy was a well respected and liked man. That fact that he just passed himself four weeks later, I just really want to the truth to be told; that he did something amazing.. She combs her black hair and brushes her teeth, then puts on the simple white dress that says Stout below the left shoulder. BARDSTOWN, Ky. (WDRB) Thirty years after a mother was murdered, her husband is speaking out about her violent death. This film begins with a pregnant woman by the name of "Lucinda Michaels" (Cheryl Ladd) arriving by bus to the small town of Amherst and being greeted by law enforcement official by the name of "Detective Matt Harding" (Nick Mancuso). Herbert Spencer, (born April 27, 1820, Derby, Derbyshire, Englanddied December 8, 1903, Brighton, Sussex), English sociologist and philosopher, an early advocate of the theory of evolution, who achieved an influential synthesis of knowledge, advocating the preeminence of the individual over society and of science over religion. But the police were adamant: No visitors; Lucinda Stout had been arrested on suspicion of murder. Once Arthur and Lucinda married, Spencer saw that she never went near the step family again for fear she'd kill them. Lancaster then tried to get Stout to clear up a discrepancy in testimony. He did his best. Yes. Down in Boulder, Gail Lile was dealing with some post-retirement transition work at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration when she got a call from her husband Larry Lile. First published on April 20, 2018 / 10:01 PM. He dug out his Superman lunch box, and went to start work the next day. I wanted him to know that she knew how much he cared, and that he really was an incredible person in her life, and he played a bigger role than I think he knew.. The two were married for 12 years and had three children together: Elizabeth, Melinda, and John Andrew. Bethani Puzo used to work on the trails with Lile in his first stint with the county, meaning the two spent hours in the Boulder County wilderness with just each other for company. She said that she was going to kill them tonight. I didnt know until I looked in this memory book that they had written something.. The District Attorneys office would undoubtedly attempt to certify Lucinda Stout as an adult and try her for murder, asking for life imprisonment. Her five siblings flew to Colorado Wednesday to remember her and while finding support in each other, they said they also found it in the Boulder community. No, sir. She had been stabbed more than 40 times and had a severe injury to her head. You have a lot of older trees in the area. He was once again an impressive witness; he appeared to be a simple, hardworking husband and father, a man whod succeeded despite the handicaps of a teenage marriage and a lack of education. Lucinda arrived a few minutes later, bent over him and said, Daddy, I love you. Rudee went into the room and held her friends hand as they took Spencer off life support. I just thought she had been hit by a car.". The judge just couldnt admit evidence obtained in that manner, Lancaster thought. His immaculately trimmed gray hair, wire-rimmed glasses, and grave countenance make him look like hes straight from Central Casting. It scares me that you would categorize this individual as a sociopath without any further examination. On Dec. 12, just a few hours later, Spencer . Why did you shoot him? If you want to put it that way. You are just minutes from Greenwood & Myers Mortuary is the first choice for many families when they are seeking funeral services in Boulder. She was very emotional and upset. Connie and James A. Grund (parents of Jimmy) still live in the same house on Main Street in Peru. Yes, she did. But the script makes him succumb to her fancies. By coincidence, Liles service and Spencers wound up being on the same day. She said that the law wouldnt do anything to her. Boulder County employee dies following fall at Heil Valley Ranch. May 10, 2018. Nick Mancuso makes the most interesting performance here, the friend of the murdered husband, who refuses to let go of the case. Lucinda Stout would be sent to the grand jury and possibly to prison for life by the testimony of her father and her best friend. She said, I have to see my Lucas memorial rock,' Gail Lile said. I ran home and the police, they were going to be coming over. Lancaster asked again about Angela Creed. He dug out his Superman lunch box, and went to start work the next day. She was a free spirit; she was studying to be a yoga teacher; she was very gifted and smart, she was a dancer, she just had this bubbly personality She had a really wonderful life she was working on.. Im asking you that question. Apparently, Reid is absent from the Criminal Minds reboot because Gubler wants to venture out in his career. Sometimes just thinking about it could make David Lancaster tired, very tired. It's been years since any leads or tips have come in, according to investigators with Kentucky State Police. Lancaster guided the boy through his recollections of family quarrels. Peter Bernardo Spencer, 29, was invited by a co-worker to join him at a cabin in Rockland Township, Pennsylvania, on Dec. 11, according to his family. She had confessed to the crimes. Gaithers objection was overruled. See Emma Corrin as Princess Diana 16 Shows to Watch After "The Crown" How The Crown's Actors Compare to the Royals Authorities said Spencer had stopped to rest under the tree as she was moving, and that a branch hit her head when it fell. Bobby had always told him if anything happened, David should take care of the surviving family members and the business. Enjoy unlimited access to all of our incredible journalism, in print and digital. . Liles was just beginning. Its not a great job, but hes trying to save enough to go to flying school. You did understand that she was sixteen years of age Yes, sir. Lucinda Spencer, 62, and Lucas Lile, 29, each died last spring in incidents that appeared to have no link Matthew Jonas, Daily Camera From left: Simon Lile, Gail Lile and Larry Lile stand next. Needless to say, it was the worst day of my life, Gail Lile said. I was getting up. Was it within two weeks, three weeks? Puzo has since moved to trail design, so she isnt out in the field as much and wasnt going to be working directly with Lile. She even gave fans several glimpses of what happens between takes on the program in pictures posted on Instagram. Get browser notifications for breaking news, live events, and exclusive reporting. She had about $31,000. Did 1 ask you if Lucinda told you that she was going to kill her parents and you said no, didnt you? Although I didn't expect too much initially due to the made-for-television format, I was somewhat surprised by how well it kept my interest pretty much from start-to-finish. His loved one was taken too soon in such a brutal and violent way. He did his best. Numerous trees have been uprooted, many people are without power, and roads have been closed due to vehicles being blown over. I feel like we need to honor him always, and we will continue to do so, she said. Moreover, they claimed defense counsel had not been adequately warned that Grigson would testify, adversely affecting cross-examination. . Did he mention anything about how long or what kind of trouble you could get into? And there he is holding her in his arms and then helping me and the family., The fact that he died is hard to understand. She is a customer, and her and her husband visited me at the hospital. Lucinda Spencer, 62, was killed Tuesday after a wind gust caused a tree limb to come toppling down on her. Lucindas confession and Bobby Stouts testimony would take care of the nature of the crime and the sufficiency of evidence. I did it. And so Lile helped Spencer move her things, and the two quickly bonded. Although KSP said the case has been cold for years, investigators would still like to speak with anymore who has information about what happened March 25, 1990, in Bardstown, Kentucky. The judge reserved a row near the front for his wife and friends, and granted photographers unprecedented access to the courtroom. Their feelings about Susan have never mellowed and they visit the grave of their murdered son each weekend. My husband and I were pacing the floor, saying, It cant be Lucas, it cant be Lucas. Because we had gotten word someone had died. I went down there and opened it up to help my nephew deliver a couple of trucks. Yes, sir. The scene at his brothers house in northwest Dallas was like a grotesque carnival: Red patrol car lights swept the neighborhood; two-way radios squawked and sputtered; patrolmen prowled the yard while neighbors stared and whispered across the street. Bobby said he was upset with his brother David because he wanted to hire the highest-priced lawyer in town for Lucinda and him pay the bill. Mrs. Karl was sure she had noticed a swelling on the lower right of Sharons face when she saw the body that night. Stout admitted to at least two affairs but maintained they had been six years ago. When he relayed Williams' symptoms . Lancaster scanned the jury as Lucinda stepped down. Feeding him ice cream. Darlene admits she wishes she had not split the family by informing on her sister to the authorities. I told him that I was going to do what he said and that 1 loved him. Actor Mike Farrell (Clay) could be mistaken for actor Keith Carradine. One judge may be satisfied that a child is beyond rehabilitation on the basis of one or two psychiatric reports; another may want ten. When was the last time you saw Elaine prior to June of 1977? Stouts testimony had been convincing at the certification hearing, but that was before a judge, not a jury. I didnt know until I looked in this memory book that they had written something.. Lile picked up Spencer and talked to her and tried to comfort her as she lost consciousness during the wait for paramedics. And your mother wouldnt let you go out one night and you got mad and decided to run away, is that right? Just two unfortunate, but unrelated deaths. His heart just burst I think, Gail Lile said. BARDSTOWN, Ky. (WDRB) Thirty years after a mother was murdered, her husband is speaking out about her violent death. He came home and thats when he just fell apart. View Lucinda Spencer's profile on LinkedIn, the world's largest professional community. She portrayed Junior Detective Lucinda Barry on the USA Network hit original series Psych. Its in the old part of Louisville, Louisville police Sgt. Objection sustained. Be that as it may, while certainly not a great crime-drama by any means, I found it to be a decent movie for the most part and I have rated it accordingly. He was that kind of person. A few weeks after Spencers death, Lile decided to go back to working on trails for Boulder County Parks & Open Space. Spencer Jones, his name rearranged, his face. She only appears in the pilot and is replaced by Juliet O'Hara in the second episode, "Spellingg Bee". When her husband finds out his wife has betrayed him he alters his will and she gets into a hurry. No, sir, I didnt. See the complete profile on LinkedIn and discover Lucinda's connections and jobs at similar companies. Before she married Jimmy Grund she was married to Tom Whited Sr. She beat her stepson's so bad he is now mentally retarded. Did you ask her if she wanted an attorney with her when she answered your questions? He didnt want to take sides either. From its enactment in 1973, Texas procedures for certifying a juvenile offender as an adult were used sparingly and with little publicity. Some juvenile offenders, the thinking went, were just too dangerous to return to the streets. Bobby Stout had been wounded twice, once in the abdomen, once through the back. He said his mother had arrived to do the books about half an hour earlier. They divorced in 1978 and Lucinda married someone with the surname Johnson. Lucinda had no criminal record; Burn-ham reached back for a minor incident of the year before. Nick, Monroe, Spencer, and a police squad all arrived at the scene of the crime. . People have been so kind.". Stout admitted that he had taken her out within the past year. Above all, the system sought to leave most decisions to the parents. By the time she arrived at the hospital, Spencer was in surgery and all Rudee could do was wait and hope her friend would pull through. Earlier in the day hed caused something of a stir by handwriting a subpoena for Angela Creed. Rudee said Lile kept talking about how he wished the tree had fallen on him instead, or that he could have done more to try and save Spencer. And having been a criminal attorney for 20 years, David Lancaster knew Davids 16-year-old niece was in a lot of trouble. Ill get you help. He was always laughing, joking. 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