WebThe Phil Donahue Show, also known as Donahue, is an American television talk show hosted by Phil Donahue that ran for 26 years on national television. Due to a planned power outage on Friday, 1/14, between 8am-1pm PST, some services may be impacted. How did people receive this? Their goal was just to have a platform for their ideas to live on. Jensen was a renowned psychologist at UC Berkeley. Rigo:Exactly. Over the years, he was trying to show the world that there was a direct line from Nazis in World War II to race scientists like Philippe Rushton, and it all comes back to the funding source. And we just went down a whole list, and, you know, and he confirmed that he was all those people. The American Breed: Nazi eugenics and the origins of the Pioneer Fundby Paul Lombardo, The Funding of Scientific Racism: Wickliffe Draper and the Pioneer Fundby William Tucker, The New Eugenics: Academic Racism in the U.S. Todayby Barry Mehler, Superior: The Return of Race Scienceby Angela Saini. About | Browse this Partner Contact Us James E. Woods The user assumes responsibility for obtaining permission from the copyright holder to publish or distribute this image. Rigo:Close. Episode 4from the Innate: How Science Invented the Myth of Race series. To me, it seems like he's trying to present himself as a reasonable, well spoken guy who's just asking questions, all in the name of academic curiosity, of course. Rigo:Yeah. Lisa:I have no sympathy, Rigo, let's keep going. Bill:There is this long tradition of academic racism which Pioneer has continued. [Description and dates], Hagley ID, Box/folder number, MCI Communications Corporation records (Accession 2225), Manuscripts and Archives Department, Hagley Museum and Library, Wilmington, DE 19807, Access to this item is provided for educational and research purposes only. Lisa:So tell me about Roger Pearson. And not only survive, but was able to, um, make significant contribution to our understanding of what is actually going on. Rigo:So instead of going to the police, Barry asked his friends who used to be Marines to come live in his house with their guns and their 125 pound rottweiler. TVRepeater The group behind it bombed a synagogue in 1958, just to give you a sense of who they were. News archive:Some of the ideas found in the book, the bell curve are not new. 8 No. However, The Pioneer Fund and the Mankind Quarterly are not just any other source. You want to publish if you can in a journal with a higher impact score rather than a lower impact score. ", And in a number of cases, it wasn't even money for the research, it was just money for the individuals, gifts, large gifts of personal checks to the people who carry on this research. After he lost a key New York outlet and KNBC-TV Channel 4 in Los Angeles announced it would not be renewing the show, he decided to quit rather than be canceled. So up until now, we've been talking about the neo Nazi propaganda that Barry Mehler gets in the mail, but what does he actually do with all the information he's collecting? web pages I mean, he was a Guggenheim Fellow, so this guy's very prestigious, and he's come to Donahue to mouth off theories about biological differences between racial groups. Rigo:Honestly, you're not that far off. The ideology, the quote, unquote, "scientific support for racial hierarchy," This stuff is getting mainstreamed in the 1990s, isn't it? on the Internet. Remember, Pearson is one of the founders of the Mankind Quarterly. It's standard journalism practice to reach out to people if you're gonna talk about them. There are somebody who's at the top. If I was on a national public radio program, that's fine. Barry:Here was, uh, a guy who subscribed to The Thunderbolt. The name calling incident was a rude awakening, but things would unfortunately get worse from there. The result: Donahue, the longest running syndicated talk show in television history with its 29 year on-air reign. But if you want to go complain to your Dean, you go ahead. Lisa:So on one hand, you have a very bored, uh, very racist wealthy boy, and on the other, you have a rising American Nazi. Lisa:Wickliffe Preston Draper. The Czech army officers have more conference penises. Rigo:Right. Quality varies and some episodes may not be complete. He's an academic like Rushton, but less prestigious. Listen to this. Search the history of over 797 billion Capture a web page as it appears now for use as a trusted citation in the future. And on the other hand were the political people who did the actual exploiting. We were on the run. WebHost Phil Donahue questions Bill Clinton and Albert Gore, Jr. in the studios of Nashville's WSMV-TV, taking questions from members of the audience including Stacy Harris who They wanted the ideas out but not their name. Digitized material in this online archive may document imagery or language that reflects racist, ableist, sexist, homophobic, or otherwise offensive and harmful beliefs and actions in history. Lisa:I really take Mehler's point there. This season we're going to talk about how racism and white supremacy have been baked into science , and how it's not about individual racists, or it's not about individual bad people, but in this story, there actually are individual bad people funding bad things. Archive of Erbkrant: You find it a specially high percentage of mentally air among the Jewish population. Use science to shield the race science. And so, Pioneer has been the keeper of the flame, in this case. Lisa:So real science as a shield for junk science, got it. He knows there must be more there, and sure enough, he was right. There were some consequences, though. By downloading this file you agree to our access conditions and use restrictions. The Bell Curve was one of The Pioneer Fund's greatest hits for two reasons. WebPhil Donahue was born on December 21, 1935 in Cleveland, Ohio, USA. Rigo:Right, exactly. Producer: Rigoberto Hernandez Especially of the southern, southern states in the United States had this one drop rule. He openly endorsed it. McNeil/Leher Report:What has landed the bell curve on the cover of many magazines and Charles Murray on numerous talk shows is that the book also links IQ with race on Mary's bell curve of IQ scores, blacks as a group have an average IQ of 85 whites, 100 Asians, 105. Rigo:And this is perhaps the greatest achievement of The Pioneer Fund, is by keeping the race science flame alive, there is an intellectual continuity for people like Sam Harris, and they don't have to start from scratch. They decided that Jensen and Shockley should work together, and throughout that partnership, Jensen's ideas change. It was because I was not a mainstream scholar that I was able to get away with all the things that I was able to, to do, and I did survive. What is this about? In Silicon Valleys renegade days, a hardheaded Texan chased dreams of a flying car. Published through Distillations, the Science History Institutes highly acclaimed digital content platform, the project examines the scientific origins of support for racist theories, practices, and policies. Lisa:Presumably he's not also a race scientist? And it was a dramatic transformation. I'm gonna take a trip to each of these places to see, and I thought some of these trips might be wasted because there would be nothing there. You don't have to apply. What is the English language plot outline for Donahue (1967)? I mean, they hid themselves for decades, right, behind the scenes so they don't want someone who's gonna be a lightening rod for controversy. Lisa:Rigo, I feel like you're about to tell me that there's a secret clique or confederacy if you will of rich racists sitting in a basement somewhere funding every racist academic. There's like, an intellectual continuity, so that theory Mehler had as a 13 year old boy, that the Nazis didn't just suddenly disappear, he was right. And apparently Draper was also kind of shy. Ultimately, the Holocaust showed the world the inevitable consequences of eugenics, and there was a great moral reckoning, which led to in agreement about race and race science. Rigo:Yeah. I mean, I was never anybody really. He won a Nobel Prize for his work on semiconductors. He recalled one instance when his grade school son, Isaac, wanted to go play in the woods with his friend, but his volunteer body guard stopped him from going. Is it still around? Barry: The Pioneer was looking for scholars who were willing to take a stand, and that's what Jensen was willing to do. The father is just driving along proud of his son. Lisa:It works sort of like a bat signal, but instead of attracting superheroes, you uncover white supremacists. Rigo:When Bill Tucker was doing research for his book, The Funding of Scientific Racism, he made a list of all the American scientists he could think of who were promoting theories of black inferiority or segregation, and then he went to the various archives to see if he could find connections between them and The Pioneer Fund. So I want to take you back to the 1990s with this video that I found on YouTube. Barry:I came across Roger Pearson right away, I mean really early on. What's it gonna be? The Hagley Digital Archives provides online access to selected items from the Hagley Library's collection of images, documents, and publications related to the history of business, technology, and society. Associate Producer: Padmini Ragunath I had a subscription to all these, you know, Nazi newspapers. The department is located in UNT's Willis Library in the fourth floor Reading Room. This is why Barry Mehler was so adamant that white supremacy was such a serious problem. Barry:I had to really refrain from, um, speculating on Phil Rushton's penis size, but here was a guy who, "They may have bigger penises, but I've got a bigger brain." Play all He was the great scholar, [laughs] and I was just this annoying fly who was, uh, pointing out things that were embarrassing and disturbing to them, and it was the nature of what I was pointing out that was embarrassing to them, not who I was. He was also tracking another person who raised red flags for him, someone who was very important to The Pioneer Fund and the neo Nazi movement. It's the Phil Donahue Show, one of the '90s most watched talk shows. Rigo:What's interesting about eugenics is that it's a dirty word now, but in the 1920s and the early 1930s, they were mainstream ideas, they were in vogue. Barry:I've had a sense of urgency that goes back a very, very long time. He was inspired by Hans F. K. Gnther, the Third Reich's most prominent race scientist. 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Web10 A.M., Phil Donahue, CH.5 Biographical Sketch of Ari Kane Cross-Port InnerView, Vol. Rigo:Yeah. But what Barry Mehler did was to go deeper. Barry:I mean, to this day I can't, you know, tell you what that does to me. Episode 1 from the Innate: How Science Invented the Myth of Race series. So when things got hot, you wanted to make sure everything was locked down. Bill:The Mankind Quarterly is a very interesting publication. And when I say a Nazi magazine, the logo literally had a swastika in it, and then he wrote an article that claimed that Jews had started World War II, and they were trying to exterminate the Germans so they were the victims. Just to give you an example of how this works, the journal Nature currently has an impact score of 40, and the Mankind Quarterly sits below one, but none of this mattered to the people in the Mankind Quarterly. That's how I felt. Lisa:The quote that everyone remembers from that trial is when Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes said, "Three generations of imbeciles are enough." Lisa:But since this is Distillations, I'm guessing they're not. Barry:I want you to know that it was extremely important to me to make the connection to Nazis because that's what people understood. Do you want to know what else was in Barry Mehler's mailbox? WebFrom July 2002 to March 2003, Phil briefly hosted a talk show on MSNBC. This is Barry Mehler. Rigo:So I asked Barry Mehler about the video. Phil Donahue Book There's a load of absolute rubish. Although it was widely dismissed, it is still cited today as evidence that white people are smarter than Black people, and it's all biological. It was interesting to learn that they would Draper would send them, like, Christmas presents basically, like literal, like, "Here's $50. Is he the psychologist whose work is cited in The Bell Curve? It goes on so prominently that, uh, when this book arrives on the desk of members of Congress, Theodore, uh, Bilbo, infamous Mississippi senator known by his biographer as the arch angel of white supremacy, he praises the book, and he actually takes it to the floor of Congress and reads it while the filibuster is going on to prevent federal law against lynching being passed. Lisa:So this is kind of a David and Goliath situation, Guggenheim Fellow versus academic underdog. Decades later, it still sounds the same. And before you try to tell me that he's still on the fringes, listen to this. Search the history of over 797 billion It gets stranger. How does he keep getting the chance to put these ideas forward? Rigo:Of course, it had to be him. Barry:Jensen and Shockley were stars, were, were Pioneer stars, and they received huge amounts of money from The Pioneer Fund. Donahue - Phil Donahue : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive Volume 90% 00:00 44:06 44:06 1 Donahue - 1972 - Gladys Knight 45:36 2 Rigo:Even though his work was only in left leaning publications, the TV appearances were a big platform for Mehler to refute their ideas, but he says that might have been for nothing. And, um, my son picked up the phone one day, and this, uh, guy said to him, um, "I'm gonna kill you, chop you up into pieces, and mail you back to your dad in boxes.". Subscribe to our quarterly newsletter for the latest So Rigo, you're one of our producers on our show, Distillations, and you've come in with a story today for us, right? Recently, you were, uh Ferris State University suspended you for publishing a profanity based video. This was everywhere, [laughs] uh, while I was growing up. Phil Donahue's show started off similar to other shows of its day, featuring celebrities and musical acts, but he soon started pushing the envelope by discussing health and social topics previously considered taboo. Whites have fewer sexual partners than do blacks. Rigo:So, clearly method three achieved the desired effect, to find powerful like minded racists. Barry:I don't need to have credit. Donahue:and a big and larger genitals mean more promiscuity. And the second reason why The Bell Curve is so important to The Pioneer Fund is that it had staying power. First, I believe it is not hypocritical, though it does sometimes express erroneous views. So I'm gonna go back to that book in a bit. Lisa:In a way, this kind of makes sense for how academia works. I went to the police about the swastika on the mailbox and they said, "Yeah, you know, that's just kids, you know, and look, they didn't even do it right. They also share the same funding source. He also shares the story of meeting wife Marlo Thomas, how he feels about being parodied on Saturday Night Live, and what he really thinks of Oprah Winfrey. ABC News Archive on Laughlin:It was called Erbkrant, which means hereditary, defective. Ironically, the Third Reich thought that this was too extreme for them, and so they didn't use the one drop of Jewish blood made you Jewish. Angela:And the consensus was set in stone really by UNESCO, um, in the 1950s in a set of declarations in which they essentially stated that race is a social construct, it doesn't have any biological validity, and that was signed by a number of scientists, anthropologists, policymakers all over the world. He was the first person to really call them out publicly. Lisa:So, and this is really just personal curiosity, what about Barry Mehler? It's to get the message out, "You can't go through the Jews because they distort everything.". Um, but most of the money that Shockley got Well, in fact, really all of the money that Shockley got had nothing to do with research. Phil Donahue's show started off similar to other shows of its day, featuring celebrities and musical acts, but he soon started pushing the envelope by discussing health and social topics previously Read allThe precursor to all the daytime talk shows that arose during the 1980's and 90's. Rigo:They named it The Pioneer Fund, but sometimes people called it the Draper Fund because it was all of his money, and they funded whatever he wanted. Instead, they used various combinations. Lisa:Ah, charming. Rigo:Arthur Jensen in particular got more than a million dollars from them. It is around this time in the early 1970s that something happened that could have been the end of The Pioneer Fund. Rigo:Yeah. The opposite, in fact. "Here's some money for you because we like what you're doing.". Lisa:Right. 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The precursor to all the daytime talk shows that arose during the 1980's and 90's. What was striking was the more extreme you were, the more successful you seemed to be in this whole world, and what I found interesting was that you could have, uh, a very mainstream sort of academic career, and then you could be on the editorial board of Roger Pearson's Mankind Quarterly, and nobody would notice that. Barry:One day walking on the street, it was a beautiful spring day, and I was daydreaming, and unbeknownst to me, two boys run up behind me, and one of them just punched me in the back, sent me flying, you know, stars, and, you know, and then, then they run on. Search the history of over 797 billion You've got You have something wrong with that? Lisa:Ah, the infamous William Shockley. 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