mamamoo problematic thread

The most ridiculous thing I have heard it that Hwasa try to be black like how by being Confident and unapologetic about her skin tone, clothing and looks cause she radiates hotness. MAMAMOO debuted on June 18, 2014, along with their single "Mr. Ambiguous." MAMAMOO was commended along with their first single by the critics as one of the best K-pop debut group in 2014. When you choose to spend that privilege constantly mocking and harassing people online, well, karma's going to come back to you, in some form or another. i love exo. ga('ads.send', { Goodbye! RBW then said they would work to educate themselves more on cultural sensitivity and the struggles that the black community and various other POC communities have undergone and continue to go through. } That obviously didnt work too well. Kissed Yewons thighs on We Got Married while carrying her on his shoulders, Persuaded Jackson (GOT7) to accompany him in going into the girls room without permission and rifling through their stuff on episode 45 of SBS Roommate, thanks for not defending the other stuff I guess, okay this is actually the last post I just find it hard to sleep when I dont resolve stuff, An Apology For the Super Junior Masterpost, I wasnt trying to paint suju as bad guys or anything I honestly just wanted to help the people whod be sending me asks, sorry to bring this up again but a few more people reblogged it. The sun will always shine for us. offensive/misogynistic comments to his Cyworld account, Kai was in charge of skin color in the group, my noona is a little on the tanned side, no wonder why you guys acted like you were so close with each other, I thought the lights were not entering over there, said that he has Kai saved as Blackie in his phone contacts, in a pre-debut video with a hard -er at the end, how can you say something that doesnt even make sense?, Chanyeol asked Kai if he wanted to lighten his skin, Dont misunderstand us. They're open-minded and extremely kind people. Yeah, the first thing international fans do is hear that Mamamoo is bad and that they shouldn't like them, and then they jump in on the hate without doing their own research. Mobile +91-9466446612, +91-9728497962; Email info@pvginternationals.com; wow tanaan jungle questline; small planet airlines fleet; you've got mail bookstore name if(document.querySelector("#adunit")){ my bias is varied between moonbyul and solar Hip is one of my most played songs ever You must log in or register to reply here. },false) but its hard not to be. So to me Mamamoo isn't the most problematic groups, they are one of the every few kpop groups that take criticism and acknowledge it and learn from it. it is also very likely the kangin/n thing was scripted, considering n hung out with suju members shortly after and neither n nor kangin nor their companies were asked about it EVEN ONCE and calling someonetrash in a magazine or bts video is a big deal. The group officially debuted with their single "Mr. Ambiguous" on June 18, 2014. And it manifested almost solely around Hwasa who since the very beginning has received the bulk of the hate. Solar | Moonbyul | Wheein | Hwasa (Purple Backs) Solar | Moonbyul | Wheein | Hwasa (Mint Backs) CD version comes with 3 photocards. let gads_event; The photos are problematic as they were taken in 2008 when Chorong was in high school and underage at 17 years old. Your question/message will be answered rudely or even deleted if you have not read the FAQ first. Like who is the next ethnicity youre going to offend? As Ive said before, Im not a muslim, and I was just going off of what Id seen other muslim bloggers say. I never thought it would gain the traction that it did and I dont feel comfortable running it at the moment, Im sorry. Fans welcome to spam photos, videos, gifs, to talk about Mamamoo, Solar, Moonbyul, Wheein, Hwasa updates, music, content or anything. This page was loaded Sep 23rd 2021, 9:34 pm GMT. document.querySelector("#ads").addEventListener('click',function(){ And yes I did make an exo masterpost, heres a link. Goodnight. i am so so tired. Yes theres a chance it was scripted (something I didnt include originally but will add) but since we arent sure, I included it anyway. This resulted in people calling her out as dressing like a black stereotype, and complaining that she was even wearing blackface again, despite the fact that she had no heavily darker makeup on, and was simply rocking her naturally darker skin. ga('create', 'UA-67136960-15', 'auto', 'ads'); Also of note, Mamamoo participated in and won the 2019 Queendom, coming in first place against such idols as (G)I-DLE, AOA, Oh My Girl, Park Bom, and Lovelyz. please read this first, honestly i will not respond to anyone who has not read this first. This was such a good response. pg.acq.push(function() { That crosses every sort of line. Hwasa's most recent callout stemmed from her latest comeback with the track 'Maria', a song that delved into her own struggles with mental health and being on the receiving end of severe hate. I like most of the members included in that post, please dont try to make it out like I dont, because it perpetuates the idea that fans cant criticise the things they love. I only made the post because Ive personally received asks about whether or not there is a Super Junior master post and whether specific members have done anything, and thought itd be easy to compile a list, seeing as thats sorta what this blog is for. ; _____; aaaa. } #askhwasa pic.twitter.com/rqPYTIMaEL, And from there, the jokes just continued, "Biggie or Tupac?" Im aware people can be incredibly childish when it comes to offensive stuff in kpop, almost like its some game, like, there are actual people who look forward to exos next fuckup as though its not something that deeply upsets people. }); Its easy for us to do because we arent in their position, I know we like to believe that we would be 100% perfect celebrities if we were given the chance, but we havent been in the spotlight for 10 years (Im sure I would have messed up far more than some of the members have over 10 years). There are so many kids in the . Kpop music (as all music) is rightfully and obviously for everyone but i'm kinda surprised how big of a lesbian following kpop groups like mamamoo and dreamcatcher have and to some extent TXT, with other groups it doesnt seem to be that way. I promise you it wasnt a group thing. [3] I dont know how familiar you are with vixx, but N is constantly put down by hisfriends about his appearance (specifically his skin color) and one of the things Kangin criticised him for was his self confidence, which honestly, was really, really rude and definitely uncalled for. Nobody is saying you cant like these idols, everybody messes up at some point, but dont call other people sensitive just because you might have a higher tolerance level. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. The following 32 users Like TheSexyTwiMan's post: From my own judgement, the members seem like good, genuine people. i know you deemed your siwon thing heavily unreliable but even the fanvideo is wrong. And despite Hwasa's fans attempting to set the record straight through her own apologies and explanations, the hashtag continued to be used by many to troll the idol. Feels bad yo. But seeing these articles faze me. Guess we just have to deal with the immature fans who judge them for small things. This has been a hard decision to make, one Ive been debating with for a good while now, but Ive decided I think its best for me to take a break from this blog. As I am not muslim (and Im not sure if you are or not) I feel as though its not really up for me to say whether or not its offensive ora reach. MAMAMOOWA Entertainment2015 Rainbow Bridge World (RBW)MAMAMOOMAMAMOO . As Ive said before, I dont know everything, and I try to provide sources for what I post, but Im a bit cynical and I can sometimes put too much trust into what other people say, so please, please, please call me out if you notice me spreading misinformation (it will always be appreciated) and I will update the masterpost. This thread can't even agree on what Mamamoo did or did not do and yet y'all want to drag them into Blackpink's problematic sh*t to divert the attention, y'all are a damn mess. All this being said, Mamamoo is truly know, not as huge award/reality show winners, but as an idol group of the people. Its quite a big responsibility looking after this blog and Im not sure my wellbeing can take that on top of my workload and personal problems. Advanced Faker. Explore the latest videos from hashtags: #mamamooproblematic, #mamamooegotistic, #mamaproblematica, # . Another chose to call out an even older incident, one in which Hwasa used the n-word while covering a Beyonc song. Fandom Name - Moomoo Sub-Unit - Mamamoo+ Japanese Website Twitter Japanese Twitter Instagram YouTube Japanese YouTube Fan Cafe Tiktok Joined: May 2022. Solar Moonbyul Wheein Hwasa Results are only viewable after voting. #AskHwasa. I know they've apologized for many of their other problems they faced but seriously, the hate is so overwhelming. However, another fan might choose not to forgive him for it, which is totally up to them, and totally understandable. Im aware people hold stuff against suju quite a lot, especially in comparison to other problematic groups like BigBang and 2NE1, who I rarely see get criticised, but that doesnt counteract the fact that suju have messed up before (because theyre human beings). Mamamoo member Hwasa is one of the most compelling female idols. I hope everybody has a good day/night. I heard that this picture would drive people with OCD crazy.. Official MAMAMOO Thread cntrljinsung Jul 1, 2019 hwasa mamamoo moomoo moonbyul solar wheein MAMAMOO bais? You dont owe them anything in the lines of forgiveness, especially if you were one of the people they personally hurt with their past actions. I actually really appreciate people messaging me about stuff and talking it through with me, especially because I actually really dislike conflict (makes me wonder why I started this blog really haha). Siwon seems like a genuinely nice guy, and its really unfortunate that people keep spreading the rumour that hes homophobic, and Im ashamed to be one of the people who contributed to this. But I wanted to post this just to show that colorism in VIXX is a major problem, it has been happening since debut and has continued up til now, is something that has majorly affected Hakyeon (and is not just "a fun inside joke") and is something that every single other member is guilty of. and I know it would've been much, much lower if I didn't force y'all to give the NMIXX songs an average of at least 3.00. Daily persecution? Ive said it before and Ill say it again, that post wasnt made with the intent of hurting Super Junior or their fans, nor was it made for the purpose of bashing Super Junior. Im going to leave this blog up so people can still refer to some of the posts and look through the tags. Ive also seen Chanyeol and Baekhyun fans criticise them for the stuff theyve said/done, but move on and continue to be their fans, which is also a personal decision. I read something the other day that said we forgive the people not the actions which I think is a accurate way of thinking. Personally, I come from a Chinese household with really racist, sexist, misogynistic, and homophobic beliefs. If a celebrity said something homophobic 5 years ago but is now a huge activist in the lgbtq+ community, its likely that they were just ignorant and have learned since. My hiatus is indefinite, but its unlikely Ill be running it again any time soon. Mamamoo - Solar. if(document.querySelector("#ads")){ I think this is one thing that remains somewhat undecided but considering Baekhyuns track record, I wouldnt put it past him tbh. A lot of it is about perspective, and privilege, but also some people have lower tolerance levels than other people. She embraces her skin and body, even though it doesn't fit neatly within traditional notions of what is considered 'ladylike' or 'beautiful' according to South Korean standards and prefers to pen songs about empowerment. its good(, When asked who their ideal types would be if the other members were girls, Chen chose Luhan and Chanyeol chose D.O and Lay then took the microphone to clarify that they were not gay by saying, A similar incident occurred at a concert(?) Group. Sorry this got a bit long but I appreciate you responding. So for antis to use that insecurity and exploit it daily, calling her everything from E.T. to a 'smelly homeless person' to having the figure of a brick, says everything about themselves and nothing about her. And it appears they still hold her accountable for it, largely owing to past instances of appropriation, such as wearing a durag. | by unchangingtruth | Medium Write Sign up Sign In 500 Apologies, but something went wrong on our end. Joined: Mar 2022 #5. document.querySelector("#adunit").addEventListener('click',function(){ Thank you~). window.googletag.pubads().addEventListener('slotRenderEnded', function(event) { I didnt put in a lack of effort because its Super Junior though, if I had been making a BigBang masterpost instead, that would have been the one with little effort put into it. I forgot how toxic Kpop fans can be Like you all know, Mamamoo has a pretty small fan base (internationally) compared to some other idol groups. The post isnt supposed to be the be-all-and-end-all of offensive super junior. media-tech companies with hubs around the world. Because of MISTAKES. I always try to reblog posts made by the people who are affected and include links in my responses but I havent been so good at keeping my mouth shut when it doesnt involve me, which is something I am going to change in myself. It has become commonplace to trash Mamamoo and Hwasa in particular, just another meme or joke to let slide. Recently the show aired a special live on the YouTube channel of I Live Alone. Hwasa trolled for past racism as #AskHwasa trends, Internet asks which ethnicity she will 'offend' next. Not speaking Korean and being confused about whats true and what isnt? I wholeheartedly accept that I messed up on this and Im really sorry, because I feel like I sort of have a responsibility not to spread misinformation and thats exactly what I did. Mamamoo isn't problematic. She made her solo debut with the single "Spit It Out" on April 23, 2020.She released her first extended play : Face with its . As for the criticism of my post in your tags, I still feel like it was appropriate to include the Kris thing, though I understand why some people dont think its offensive/problematic. when something is scripted) or it is something they did along time ago and havent done since. Im getting upset the more I think about it lol but really its just a lot of misconceptions; sometimes culturally and linguistically, that Americans like to hold a grudge against. 2) Its a good thing that people talk about suju being problematic? gads_event = event; Heres the thing- you can not forgive them. It arguably began around late 2018 Windflower era, when antis began to change Mamamoo's music video titles to racial slurs and death threats. In the way that we see them care for each other and their fans concerns, I really dont see how they could MEAN to hurt anyones feelings with how they might act at times. I recently saw their variety show where they traveled to Busan and talked a bit about the past and Moonbyul said something that really squeezed my heart (paraphrasing): "We're human. Threads: 200. A lot seem to be taken out of context and exaggerated. It took years to unlearn what was taught to me, become more informed, and develop my own beliefs. They could learn about Korean values and customs online, but they'll never truly understand the severity of it because they're not from that culture where it's significant. They've made mistakes in the past, but they're learning and growing through their experiences. hitType: 'event', I feel like this sounds insincere but its not, I promise, I wish I had gone about it very differently. You need to Register or Login to view the content. They never went into these situations with the intent of hurting or offending anyone. One fan shared a detailed card about it along with the message, "And if anybody wants to get brave about their past mistakes, heres a link with receipts and explanations. This brings us now to the true reason for this article. lesbians ranked Irene and Seulgi as #1 and #2 female idols. Im not really sure what else to say, if anyone wants to talk to me about it, thats fine. Read more about it here. We always seem to be so hard to celebrities, especially idols, when they fuck up yet we're never there to congratulate them once we see them grow and change. Yes, I should have included more info and specified where I wasnt knowledgable. People are accusing me of purposefully portraying all the members on the list as villains and not including their apologies. You need to Register or Login to view the content Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Mamamoo is a 4 member girl group under Rainbow Bridge World whose members are Solar, Moonbyul, Wheein and Hwasa and they made their debut on 19th June 2014. In the show, there are co-cast members Par Na Rae and Han Ye Jin. Also I see hate being normalised and even being defended its not hard if u don't want to forgive them then just ignore or block all mentions of them. Everyone is allowed to make mistakes and with those mistakes, come the opportunity to correct them. I just always feel the need to resolve something when I get into it and I could see where you were coming from (plus you made some valid criticisms) so I thought Id explain myself. They are definitely not out to hurt anybody, that I know for sure. window.adsContainer = {"positionAfterTitle":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle5_Rel_Newrev","isOrganicUserAd":true,"max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position2":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_After_Title_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position3":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Below_Next_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position4":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position5":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle1_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position6":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle2_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position7":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle3_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position8":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle4_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position9":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle5_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position10":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle6_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position11":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle7_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position12":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle8_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position13":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle9_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position14":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle10_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position15":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle11_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position16":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle12_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"positionTop":{"code":"Article_Desktop_970x250_Header_Rel","isOrganicUserAd":false,"max_width":970,"max_height":250},"positionBottom":{"code":"Article_Desktop_Sidebar_Bottom_Rel_Newrev","isOrganicUserAd":true,"max_width":300,"max_height":600},"positionBottomRight":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_After_Title_Rel_Newrev","isOrganicUserAd":true,"max_width":336,"max_height":280}} ), but I think if you look at all other successful idol groups too, there is always something similar with controversies and hate there as well. 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