A public court hearing will be set to determine if the documents, including the affidavit in the case, will remain under seal. I read that they had teams searching on the second day. Yes it is very important that there is a Tyson plant nearby in both of the crimes. See how people are reading too much into this guy? 4 min read. Also and this constantly nags at me, if LE really has one person, Mr X, in mind but just cannot resolve his alibi, wouldnt that name get around in a small town? The Murder Sheet Podcastwas first to publish the transcript of an Indiana State Police interview with Kline, where he admitted having contact with Libby German and suggested police had told him he failed a polygraph test about the murders. The superintendent reminded those attending and listening remotely to the press conference to continue sending any information related to the case about Allen or any other individual to the tip line set up years ago: Call 1-844-459-5786; or email abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com. Im not sure how they phrased it of they told, ordered or threatened them to not reveal what they saw. Diamond Bynum and King Walker, look that up one day. On February 13, 2017, Liberty "Libby" German, 14, and Ab Perhaps its a violation of social rules, but thats not in the DSM yet. This young lady is a hero, theres no doubt, Indiana State Police Sgt. Theyre kept their main suspect pretty secret until Leaker showed up. The people paying Hughes and Greeno clearly feel that they are getting their moneys worth. Kline denied involvement in the girls' deaths, calling the timing of his correspondence with Libby a "weird a** coincidence.". Example, women think they got game, they dont.. That sort of thing. To have enough presence of mind to activate that video system on her cellphone, to record what we believe is criminal behavior thats about to occur.. Well, to answer your question, Mr. X was at that 2019 press conference wearing the exact same hat that BG wears in that film. They are both saying the same thing independently, too, and we have no evidence that they talked to each other. Moments after multiple law enforcement agencies announced the arrest of Richard Allen, 50, in the 2017 killings of Delphi teenagers Libby German and Abby Williams, the grandparents of one of the girls spoke of how their lives have turned a page. Our profession will not allow us to speak on what we think, but to always speak about what we know. Because of the nature of the victims wounds, it is nearly certain the perpetrator of the crime would have gotten blood on his person/clothing., The document says authorities also found that two articles of clothing from one of the girls was missing from the crime scene while the rest of their clothing was recovered. OR he passed the girls and tried to speak to them and was rebuffed by Libby which made him angry, and he then began to stalk them. The agent also confirms the girls were followed by the suspect on the Monon High Bridge Trail in Delphi, and that there were no visible signs of a struggle or fight. They supplied each others alibi, technically, without saying CSI guy is a suspect. To me, he seems very stupid and immature, and I guess I want to believe the BG is some highly intelligent criminal mastermind to do something so awful and then evade capture for so long. The two best friends went missing while on a hike through the historic trails Delphi, Ind. One of those suspects was John Miller, convicted in 2018 for a 1988 murder of an 8-year-old girl. Thats how he knew they were going to be there at that date and time. Carrie added that she isn't getting her hopes up that a breakthrough in the five-year-old case could be imminent. Trexler was held in custody for a week in place of a $1,200 bond. After. Abby Williams and Liberty German went missing while walking on The Monon High Bridge Trail on Feb 13, 2017. they were found murdered the next day, victims of an unsolved double homicide. Then again if it was recent, makes me wonder if the guilt of covering up for Mr. X may have been eating him up inside? "For now, to me, it's about protecting the integrity of this case.". Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, http://www.pharostribune.com/news/local_news/article_031b521c-f2e3-11e6-a249-a77587cb24f9.html. As far as whether there was a giant 5 foot stuffed animal left at the crime scene, even though I can see that thing clear as air, that rumor is so insane that I am not going to believe unless I get some further testimony. News outlets throughout the state, including Gannett, the Hoosier State Press Association and the Indiana Broadcasters Association, filed a brief Monday in favor of the documents' release. Most compelling is the tattoo of what is clearly Libbys face with two bones and a skull framing it. Kline, 27, has never been named publicly as a suspect in the Delphi murders, but he's alleged to have been in contact with Libby, 14, the night before she was killed, police documents show. One reason this particular homicide case came to national attention is the haunting cell phone and social-media clues the girls left behind. The agent goes on to say I believe there is probable cause to believe that RONALD LOGAN has committed the crime of murder and evidence of that can be found on RONALD LOGANS property.. Speaking to The U.S. Sun last month, Libby's mom, Carrie German, said that should the search along the Wabash be related to her daughter's murder, she hopes Kline isn't leading cops on a "wild goose chase.". (http://www.pharostribune.com/news/local_news/article_031b521c-f2e3-11e6-a249-a77587cb24f9.html). I too wondered about foul play. This is apparently all correct! Abby, 13, and Libby, 14, were found dead on Valentine's Day, 2017, a day after they vanished while hiking through the woods of the Historic Delphi trails. A search party found their bodies along Deer Creek, about a quarter of a mile east of the Monon High Bridge. On Feb. 13, 2017, the two friends had gone for a hike on the Delphi Historic Trails and were reported missing by their families when they did not return home that afternoon. I can see it from a teenager or maybe a n emotionally stunted 20+ guy, but this is a middle aged man! An earlier version of this article misstated the date of Logans death. Apparently that was enough to shut up most of the SPMs. I dont know why more people arent talking about this connection. That Monday afternoon, the two ventured onto the trail around the Monon High Bridge. During a search of Allen's home on Oct. 13, 2022, officers found knives and guns, including a "Sig Sauer, Model P226, .40-caliber pistol," the probable cause affidavit said. I dont even know what that means. We have never given up. I live on a fixed income which is barely above the poverty level. I myself have short lower legs and a long thigh area, so I noticed this right away. On February 14, 2017, the bodies of Abigail "Abby" Williams and Liberty "Libby" German were discovered off a hiking trail in Delphi, Indiana, United States, after the young girls had disappeared from the same trail the previous day. Theres nothing pathological about oversharing. On a day off from school Monday, Feb. 13, 2017, the teens Liberty, 14, and Abigail, 13 embarked on a hike after a sleepover the night before at Libby's house. "Its somewhat bittersweet," Mike Patty, grandfather of Libby, told reporters Monday gathered at the DelphiUnited Methodist Church, "knowing it allows us to move to the next turn, the next chapter. I get accused of that all the time on here, as I pretty much lay my life out pretty bare and naked on here. It's unusual, infrequent to seal those documents, McLeland said but he felt it was necessary because of the extra scrutiny tied to the killings. At the conclusion of Tuesday morning's 40-minute hearing, Special Judge Fran Gull said she will publish a decision on whether to make public the charging documents and affidavit after reviewing both sides' arguments. News of Trexler's arrest comes as Indiana State Police announced they'd concluded a six-week-long search along the Wabash River in Peru, which is believed to be linked to the 2017 murders of best friends Abigail Williams and Libby German. Ok, thats so crazy that its almost impossible to believe its true. DELPHI, Ind. Its like he wants these two tween girls on the cusp of womanhood to remain forever children and sexually innocent and so leaves them surrounded by a childs toys, both as a kind of apology to them, as well as way to announce to the world that he has effectively preserved them as children forever. Delphi Murders Update April 26, 2021: You Sure There Was No Stuffed Animal Left at the Crime Scene? The photo, which was recovered from Libertys cellphone, showed a man who authorities said was walking on the Delphi Historic Trails and might have participated in the murders, according to a news release. And lets keep that open out there, keep that flowing, keep the information coming in.". I dont know about the rest of you, but I am looking at that damned bear or dog or whatever it is and I am thinking, Thats a stuffed animal. If any of you all think thats not a stuffed animal and its really something else, speak up now or forever hold your tongue. I dont see anyone refuting these claims besides the people on the internet who werent there and want to believe every single last syllable LE says. The original female search party member (SPM1) also spoke independently with another member of my team, a woman. Not much of Allen and his arrest is known as most of the case-related documents are under seal. The FBI also announced that it is utilizing approximately 6,000 electronic billboards in 46 states to solicit information on the case. This is one reason I dont think JBC is BG. It is not a a palette knife, I know that much. "If it is related, whatever they're looking for, I hope it comes sooner rather than later. Days after the bodies were found, Indiana State Police released a photo of a man they suspected was involved in the killings. Those four words have been used by family and community members to keep attention on the case as it remained unsolved. Sarah Larimer contributed to this report. The revelations come just two weeks after authorities released a redacted version of the probable cause affidavit that led to Richard Allen's arrest. He took his wife with him. Carroll County judge recuses himself in Delphi murders. Im almost 100% the Flora case is connected to the Delphi case. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. If its the same guy I think hes a hunter who worked for Tyson. Typically most defendants charged with murder do not receive bond. You see, another two victims together (if they suspect foul play?) Delphi has a park dedicated to the teens, called the Abby and Libby Memorial Park, honoring their love for sports and the outdoors. Also re searchers, it was not Mr. X that found the bodies, it was actually Jake Johns. It is our theory that Mr. X stalked Libby on Snapchat for four months until the murders. Very interesting. The next day, volunteers from the community formed a search party, and found the girls bodies in a wooded area near the trail. Its a pretty big coincidence that both these towns have a Tyson pork processing plant nearby. They force his wife to abandon their house.. This is still a very ongoing investigation, McLeland said. Stuffed animals at a double murder scene are weird enough, granted. But definitely I dont know him.". Libby's grandfather did not want the media to move on from this day. Local Indiana man arrested, charged in 2017 Delphi murders of teens. That's mind boggling. Inside Carroll County courtroom, reporters, sketch artists and the public packed the courtroom as dozens of police officers stood watch over the crowd and Allen. If you have any information on the Delphi murders, contact law enforcement at 1-800-225-5324 or Abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com. So why waste your money on Hughes and Greeno? And the new one we just talked to is saying that she was told not to tell anyone, but the scene was bugging and eating away at her so much that she just had to spill finally. Indiana State Police confirmed to WISH-TV on Wednesday afternoon that the search ended after six weeks. Were going to keep pushing all the way. Ive thought about that too, honestly. Theres a puppy sticking out of the bears collar. But there it is, sitting right there, staring us in our faces. in which I've ever, thankfully, have had to witness anything so utterly horrible. In . DELPHI, Ind. His voice sounds very like the phone recording, raspy. ", The detective then asked: "So why would you worry about your DNA being on that body? Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Comment * document.getElementById("comment").setAttribute( "id", "a7aaf19783c3ef0be4e1653389843f4e" );document.getElementById("b83dbe3da2").setAttribute( "id", "comment" ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. Anyone remember that letter and who that search coordinator was? The tattoo has already been debunked. Police announced on Monday that a suspect has been arrested in the killings of two teenagers that rocked a small town in Indiana more than five years ago. Also the point about girls being dumped in places frequented by hunters. A search party found Libby and Abby's bodies along the Deer Creek, about a quarter of a mile east of the Monon High Bridge. Yes, thats one thing I am not sure about. The next chapter is now were on to the prosecution side, right? Speculation has mounted that Kline may be working on a plea deal with prosecutors, though it's still unknown if the search is related to his child porn case or the Delphi murders. Greenos videos are almost completely worthless, and group members who have spoken to him told me he has nothing new to add to the case. Not unless they were in a relationship for 2+ years and he got a tattoo of her, which I find unlikely, as Libby would only have been about 13/14 back in 2015/2016. The pre-hearing courtroom chatter grew quiet as deputies led Allen into the courtroom from a back door. A rose will bloom, it then will fade. Now I sit here not needing to do it because at long last we have a face to go with our monster, Patty wrote Saturday in a Facebook post. I'm assuming LE must "ask them" or straight out tell them to keep such information strictly to themselves for the sake of the on-going investigation. I'm wondering if the families were even told about what the scene itself disclosed, or given any details about the crime scene such as; how the girls' bodies were left at the crime scene. In his arguments against unsealing Allen's probable cause affidavit, Carroll County Prosecutor Nicholas McLeland cited the need to protect the investigation as well as to protect the names of witnesses who might testify against Allen. A large amount of blood was lost by the victims at the crime scene, the agent writes. ", Delphi killings:4 things we learned about arrest in deaths of Liberty German and Abigail Williams. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. "No. Thanks for your work and your blog. But our understanding is she never showed up, and there was no spare set in the first place, so she had nothing to bring him! "That's just a common thing to freak out about like, [why]; you know what I mean?" "We were called in on Wednesday to tell us they had detained somebody, so weve had a couple more days to process this," Becky Patty said. Allen's attorney, Bradley Rozzi, argued in favor of releasing the documents. Yeah thats not our information. You would think that a bunch of dolls hanging from the trees and stuffed animals would draw a lot of attention to the killzone if not at night then at least when the lights came back on. (and probably always will) Obviously, they saw how their bodies were left and considering that, might have knowledge of how they were murdered from that scene. In other words, its now proven that more than one stuffed animal was left at the scene. She said police hadn't contacted her about the search but had been for other significant developments. Hes just an ordinary AFC. It was his first appearance in public since his Oct. 28 arrest and initial hearing. Breaks my heart that the family had to try so hard to get help. One of the only early clues to their killing was a video Libby took on her phone, capturing a man approaching them, who then could be heard telling the girls to go "down the hill. Also a lot of what is being sad about this guy are just flat out straight up lies. Trexler has prior DUI infractions to his name, police records show. He makes public posts that he would, and has before beaten up men who prey on kids. That seems proven at this point. We now have two separate SPMs both independently reporting that they saw dolls hanging from trees at the crime scene. "As Doug Carter said that earlier, if you recall. She is rumored to have been brutalized more than Abby. | ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Theres one reason I think we can all think of, best left unmentioned, and another, that they were out in the nowhere, possibly hunting but far away from the crime scene. Big Tweety bird eyes. I certainly wasnt there so I cant vouch one way or another. . And most of what we have reported is based on solid sources such as search party members, official case documents, and LE sources close to the investigation. The public has an absolute right to the information, but at what cost? McLeland said. Delphi murders:What we know and don't know 5 years after Abby and Libby were killed. 28th was the day.. that they must witness throughout their careers and how extremely difficult it must be to deal with. In an effort to help the public recognize whom they were looking for, Indiana State Police in July 2017 released a composite sketch of what they thought the killer looked like. "I don't want to put too much stock into it until I hear something from law enforcement," she added. To me, that explains a lot about why it took them so long to find the girls in the first place. He said hes hiding in plain sight," Patty said. If he isnt the BG, he has some macabre fascination with the murder. Contact her at rfradette@indystar.com or follow her on Twitter at @Rachel_Fradette. DELPHI, Ind. The two girls had gone for a walk on an old railroad bridge along Monon High Bridge trail near Delphi, Indiana, on February 13, 2017, when they were murdered. For safety and security, the IDOC declined to say which facility Allen is being held. The members of the search party who found them must still have visions and memories of that tragic day etched in their minds. Here in Gary, about two years ago, a special needs woman and a toddler she lived with went missing. Also the original SPM1 clarified via my friend that there was not just one stuffed animal but also that there were stuffed animals plural at the scene. Libby was 14 when she was murdered in 2017. "My worry is if he is trying to get a plea deal or whatever, then what if he's just telling them lies? 0:04. The arrest has been long awaited by the families of Liberty and Abigail, as well as for the community of Delphi, which has kept a close eye on the investigation. So he killed them and then left them a Valentines Day gift for Valentines Day! Generally at organized searches there's a required sign in sheet so all the volunteers can be accounted for at the end of the search shift. However, bond may be granted if the case does not appear to be strong, according to Indiana law. He catfished them by pretending to be a cute 19 year old boy. Think about it like this. How could that not be a stuffed animal? The teens lived in the tiny town about 70 miles northwest of Indianapolis. Was it one person who discovered the girls? - Stunning new documents describe the scene where two young girls were murdered in Delphi, Indiana, five years ago. At least, assuming the Mr. X stuff is confirmed. Also who said this crime was over quickly? He is a middle-aged man who has thick hair and a baby face and dresses like a teenager. A very popular one is the observation that if the crime scene was this insane, it would have leaked out by now. These VD animals are often holding a sign in their hands that says, I love you, or some such. Make "That is correct.". I am close in age to Chadwell and I cannot imagine writing things like that. The river is roughly 40 miles from whereLibby and Abby were killed and around two miles from theKline family home. Im sure it will come out. Not validated via LE, but its a popular rumor that police officer NM was the one supplying the apparently fake alibi for Mr. X. Its too convenient that BP appraised the house, like you said, she is connected to 6 murdered childrenMy theory? "Weve still got, now weve got a big mountain ahead of us. As for McLeland's concern for the safety of the witnesses, Rozzi said, I havent heard, nor have I seen in the evidence presented, any actionable threats.. 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