WebEyes Wide Shut (1999) Abigail Good: Mysterious Woman, Masked Party Principal Showing all 3 items Jump to: Quotes (3) Quotes Mysterious Woman : Stop! So, they joined Snctm because they heard it was the best of the best in the If it was all a elaborate part of Bill's initiation into the order. And coming from the newsgroup'sresident acid-headed, solipsistic zombie. >> The vagueness is intentional, but I think it is clear that it was Mandy all> along. I'm sorry, but this has to be said: I'm pretty sure I know what you mean, but the way you're saying it is silly. (4) With many people using Google maps-gps/satellite views scouring the earth, his Fortress of Solitude could be exposed. The lost of public phones booths will kill off Superman, Dr. Who, and Colin Farrell roles. On Feb 26, 3:27 pm, "Avoid normal situations. The 'mystery' is how SHE knows that he is an interloper. (3) With the advent of cyberspace, and just simple disinterest many newspaper companies have gone under. I think this feeling of guilt and outrage at a murder, would be the first thing on his mind. Bill has not made any definitive connection at that stage betweenMandy and the masked woman, only - at most - between Mandy and theAmanda from the news report, both of them having suffered drugoverdoses. What a joke to call them "philosophers." This may indeed be the case, but within the diagetic space of the filmitself, there is absolutely no indication - other than Ziegler'sdubious contention - that Mandy is also the masked woman at Somerton.There could even have been two deaths. The goal of yoga practice was to STOP all that useless babble---because that is how a person actually makes the breakthrough to see reality as it is. If he wereZiegler, wouldn't he instead be going out of his way to privatelycommunicate with Bill, to get Bill out of Somerton as quickly aspossible in order to avoid any possible trouble (and as Zieglersubsequently admits, Bill's gate-crashing 'made me look like acomplete fool')? A part-time hobby soon blossomed into a career when he discovered he really loved writing about movies, TV and video games; he even (arguably) had a little bit of talent for it. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<, > It's "clear," after studying the film after many viewing.>, > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Ziegle'sr story here once again, and then retrospectively> interpellating and internalising it, re-interpreting all the earlier> events of the film in strict accordance with his frankly deeply> suspect account? i'm sure he knew that aaudiences would be sophisticated enough toexamine the bodies as bill is doing in the morgue. Well thats all true, but of course that was SK making a masterpiece and one of the most amazing films ever made IMO. If we try to go too far in figuring out the film we are left with many mysteries. > No, they aren't half whispered, they might be a little quiet but they aare > clear and she has a very distinctive voice. Put on some headphones and listen. >Even in the morgue he still might not have> been positive, but he replays her voice in his head while looking over the> body. Somerton could hardly be >> >>>>>> described (and>, >> certainly not by Bill) as a 'party.'<<<<<<<<<<<. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<, > The poolroom scene is an amazing piece of extreme understatement, while at. I think the voice would have rung a bell and > the Newspaper story rang a bell, with the name Amanda, and of course > seeing the corpse of someone who may have sacrificed her life for him--so > he was in shock. > > Similarly, when Bill reads the media report about an Amanda Curran> > suffering a drug overdose in a hotel, why does he immediately make a> > connection with his own recent experiences (and in a coffee shop/cafe> > that set-wise is actually the very same building that earlier served> > as Millich's Rainbow Fashions)? It is odd that Bill would remember his patient he hadn't seen in at least a year, owned "Rainbow Fashions?" This website has Julienne Davis listed with photos--in all three scenes! Eyes Wide Shut cast Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman as a married couple, with the former playing a doctor who goes on a strange, sexually charged journey one "anachoronistic Deleuze and Guattari? What else could he call it? 1. But that's not the half of it. Tom Cruise in the Masked Ball ritual scene from Stanley Kubrick's masterpiece Eyes Wide Shut with Jocelyn Pook's haunting score filling the temple. Isn't that - again - amazing; except that you're not even unfortunateenough to have a mindless head, given the large quantities ofbubblewrap - and nothing else - between your ears take care, MrKelpless. and she > replies, "Better," and then when Bill says, "you are a very lucky girl," > Mandy says, "I know." As 1999 approached, what little was known about Eyes Wide Shut was almost indecently tantalising. The lower part is made of paper-mache, while the upper one And isn't this the mistake that many of the film's> critics made, reading Ziegler's story as 'ruining' the mystery,> desublimating the film's narrative by means of an all-neat-and-tidy> denouement? at the > ceremony/orgy. ". reinforced bythe simple observation that you have never actually posted here before[at least under your supplied handle/ID]. Not only are they the REAL "anti-intellectuals," they were schizoid as hell and projected it onto the social mess, creating political gibberish, that has NO usefulness to anyone. The silence of the empty mind, like the silent empty space we see in 2001, is the best path to curing your mania. >>>>>>>> And even if it was clear, even if he hadreferred directly to the events of the night before as the (Somerton)party, it would still be uncertain, because, 1. I mean hewas filmed only in england, but the photography behind him in thatglove clapping shot is projected or whatever and so that means that hedidn't care that mucha bout switching things around like actresses andstuff, it's about masks anyway the movie is. It's a kind of dissassociation from reality, and an obsessive flight of ideas, into endless, words and meta-words. You know perfectly well what was meant, Mr Glib Pedant but if youwant to Labour on it, as opposed to labor on it >> [ more stuff snipped ]>> > Similarly, when Bill reads the media report about an Amanda Curran> > suffering a drug overdose in a hotel, why does he immediately make a> > connection with his own recent experiences (and in a coffee shop/cafe> > that set-wise is actually the very same building that earlier served> > as Millich's Rainbow Fashions)? Is that how > you> would describe it? The masked woman was played by a different actor but is the samecharacter. ", http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIXuHaaz5iU, > This may indeed be the case, but within the diagetic space of the film. Ironically, that is just what power (and Ziegler)> would want you to believe - that the world of power and power elites> doesn't exist, is just all a charade anyway, that those who do> recognise the realities of social power and of desire are just> paranoid conspiracy nutters (when in fact it is those who> attribute all that occurs in the film to 'a dream' who are being> properly paranoid). > anything and 2. never actually spoke (just some unintelligible > mumbling),<<<, > No, she clearly says "sorry" to Zeigler when he says "you gave us a scare > kiddo" and then Bill asks her, "How are you feeling now Mandy?" He may literally have to go underground, or to the moon, etc. <<<<<<<<<<<<<>. Plus there is *no* *way* that a rare bookdealer would smoke anywhere near a book of which there are only threecopies in existence. And you bring up anachoronistic Deleuze and Guattari? That is what she was" implying that her deathis of no consequence because of the low-status manner in which Zieglerchooses to define her (an identity created and perpetuated by theZieglers of the world in the first place), earlier confirmed by hisdesire to get the drugged-out Mandy out of his bathroom and house("Can we put some clothes on her and get her out of here?" andpleading with her to take off her mask? Poor pitiful morons that we all are -thank Bog he's put off Nirvana for so long. Let him go! On Friday, July 17, 2015 at 5:36:03 PM UTC-4, JD Chase wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjMIROKzH7s, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4N4vSijHTM, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOhxWdGuQd4, byend.removethisbityousillyper@eskimo.com, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inLfK535oxs. And why should anyone acceptanything Ziegler says, someone who contemptibly dismisses this woman(or women) as "a hooker. But he can't know for sure (because she was> masked at Somerton).>, >> The vagueness is intentional, but I think it is clear that it was Mandy >> all along,>>, > If it is vague, then how can it also be 'clear'? If he wereZiegler, wouldn't he instead be going out of his way to privatelycommunicate with Bill, to get Bill out of Somerton as quickly aspossible in order to avoid any possible trouble (and as Zieglersubsequently admits, Bill's gate-crashing 'made me look like acomplete fool')? Was she the women at the party?" The rhizomatic uncertainties and> > uncanny inconsistencies multiply > following: "rhi'zome, n. A rootlike stem under or along the ground,> ordinarily in a horizontal position, which usually sends out roots from> from its lower surface and leafy shoots from its upper surface. > It's totally clear the "party' in this reference, is Somerton. This is simple. Why would he demand that she take offher mask if this were so? at the >> ceremony/orgy.>, > Again, how is it 'clearly' the same voice?>. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<. >Apparently word of Bill's> entry into the ceremony/orgy traveled fast. Clearly, of course,the Somerton ritual is a mirror of Ziegler's party (with each event inmany ways serving as the 'truth' of the other): whether its Mandy atthe party or at the ritual or at both, the outcome is still the same:a corpse in a morgue. I recognized the voice of the mysterious woman first time I saw the film. The rhizomatic uncertainties anduncanny inconsistencies multiply And it is not immediately clearwhether Bill connects this Amanda to the masked woman at Somerton orto the overdosed Mandy in Ziegler's bathroom. >> When we see the news article about dead Mandy, it says "Beauty Queen"> but how did Bill know that was the same woman who ODd or helped him at> the orgy, since he never knew the real name of either? That is a possible explanation. But I agree the way it is done is brilliant and it leaves all of us unsure of everything, opening up infinite possibilites as to what it all means. It seems evident that Kubrick carefully selected the Rothschild-owned location and hand-picked the masks worn by participants of the ritual, echoing real-life families and events. Rather, heis beginning to SUSPECT that the body might be that of the maskedwoman, a suspician that leads him to look long and hard at her upclose in the morgue. He also must have recognized the voice, considering that her voice is somewhat deep and throaty with a tinge of distinctive accent. 10 Stanley Kubricks Sudden Death. : I like the Ninth Gate alot and have watched it numerous times but it's quite. >>>>>>>>>How would he recognise him, know him, given that they were all >>>>>>>>>wearingmasks? Somerton could hardly be> >>>>>> described (and>> certainly not by Bill) as a 'party. ">> "Victor what can I say. But he can't know for sure (because she wasmasked at Somerton). Mandy was not the same woman. It's profoundly, structurally, indeterminate >>> 1. so drugged out as to have been clearly incapable of making sense ofanything and 2. never actually spoke (just some unintelligiblemumbling),<<<. But what he was getting at was whether it was murder and a sacrifice for him, which makes him feel responsible, since it would not have happened had he not been there. In Dr. Bill's "dream," the masked woman he meets (played by Abigail Good) and who he later sees dead in the morgue, is a distortion of the woman he met at the party when he was still "awake" partying with his wife. I don't think there were any other dreams, although the redpool table scene always seemed the most dreamlike to me. > the same time, being simple and concrete. WebThe bodies of more completely nude masked women assail Bills voyeuristic eyes (and those of the audience). >>Even in the morgue he still might not have been positive, but he replays >>her voice in his head while looking over the body. No comments. But he still wasn't sure after reading the news story, or even aftervisiting the morgue, as his disbelief at Ziegler's explanationindicated. AmericanCinematographer did some thing on the lighting or something in thismovie when it came out, but David Mullen who used to post here (whenthis place was even worse) could answer like anything. Orgy? The vagueness is intentional, but I think it is clear that it was Mandy all along, although apparently there was a body double for some scenes. Alot was going on, he had to figure it out. -- Fred Brooks, I think I saw the "Rhizomatic" for sale on TV Late last night. What's going on?>> Wasn't the woman in the mask a lot skinnier than the ODd woman?? She helps Bill at the Nevertheless, those two recollections(one of a fantasy, one of a dream) constitute the very desire whoseexclusion (from the quotidian, commonsensical, 'social reality' of theHarfords' marriage) the film is exploring. >>What else could he call it? MYMENU MYMENU Masquerade Mask For Couples There are many, many readings of the story available, with the movie itself embracing a sort of dream/nightmare logic. However, as we might imagine, there were many who believed his death was far from natural. > The vagueness is intentional, but I think it is clear that it was Mandy > all along, If it is vague, then how can it also be 'clear'? EWS was potential. - Zieglerwasn't concerned about her health, just eager to get rid of her so asto avoid any potential social embarrassment, "Bill, this is justbetween us"). WebThat particular Royal event featured masked women who were as NOT dressed as those in the Eyes Wide Shut ritual. >on the balcony looking down at Bill, knows that it is him and nodded to >him. > I am still on the side of those who think SK left that scene of the > reflection of the sound man holding the boom mike at his crotch, in the > crome tub enclosure, on purpose, that the DVD edited out. In a buddhist sutra, Sakyamuni, criticized the compulsive mental masturbators and referred to them as people "counting ganges sands." >He also must have recognized the voice, considering that her voice is >somewhat deep and throaty with a tinge of distinctive accent. Technology has caught up with his disguises andcovers. What a mish mash of mental masturbation that is.. Psycho-semi-freudian-lacanisn-junkie-marxist babbling. Are you suggesting that the people running Somerton would let the> women there know that there was an interloper? > it is clearly the same voice as the "mysterious woman." He's eventually discovered and forced to remove his mask but is saved from a bleak fate by another masked woman who tried to warn him to leave earlier. He obtains the secret password to a clandestine masked ball, where he has a seductive encounter with a beautiful stranger. > Even Sk was not perfect in that way-----or was hethere is another > mystery. > He didn't recognise her voice. This is still a mystery. He stares down at her but that'sit, and Kubrick tryied in vain to tlel his stories visually so itshould be considerd from a visual perspective. I think it is clear he was referring to the Somerton party. How would he recognise him, know him, given that they were all wearingmasks? Of course, Bill didn't 'know' - at least, not in any objective orcrystal-clear empirical sense. People and Masks: The Meaning of Eyes Wide Shut. This is the implication of Dream Storytoo - with the movie being quite faithful to the structure of the novella - though Kubrick obviously leaves this moment up to interpretation. He did not know who she was: she was wearing> a mask. <<<<<<<<<<. Mon 14th Feb 2022 19.00 GMT. The movie is based on the 1920's novella Dream Storyand Kubrick developed the project for decades, and once considered a slightly more comedic take with Steve Martin in the lead role. So if instead, he replayed Alice's voice (or Ziegler's voice) thiswould 'prove' that the body was that of Alice (or Ziegler)? it is clearly the same voice as the "mysterious woman." for the morgue scene but it is still meant to be the same Mandy. Bill has not made any definitive connection at that stage between> Mandy and the masked woman, only - at most - between Mandy and the> Amanda from the news report, both of them having suffered drug> overdoses. <<<<<<<<. I am still on the side of those who think SK left that scene of the reflection of the sound man holding the boom mike at his crotch, in the crome tub enclosure, on purpose, that the DVD edited out. at the ceremony/orgy. The second, and more terrifying suggestion, is the mask is a final warning from the secret society for Bill to drop any further investigation or the fate that befell the woman who saved him could be visited upon Alice. He has written words for Den of Geek, Collider, The Irish Times and Screen Rant over the years, and can discuss anything from the MCU - where Hawkeye is clearly the best character - to the most obscure cult b-movie gem, and his hot takes often require heat resistant gloves to handle. There's also search enginessuch as Google where you can search for information. You can identify Pollacks eyes and chin quite easily in the close ups. Eyes Wide Shut: What The Mask On The Pillow Means, Every Stanley Kubrick Movie Ranked, Worst To Best, The Shining: Why Stanley Kubrick Changed Stephen King's Story, Why Pirates of the Caribbean Producer Wants Johnny Depp Back, Chris Pratt Joins Luigi Actor To Troll Super Mario Bros. Movie Voice Critics. Again. <<<<<<<<<<<<<. At what point do we decide whether Corpse Mandy's very slight, single frame, mini-wink and subsequent eye movement was intended? And the Somerton ritual is alsoambiguous; how, or rather why, for instance, does the masked womanupon first meeting the masked Bill, assert with such certainty that"You shouldn't be here", then followed by repeated warnings that hiscontinued presence at the ritual will get him in trouble? In Eyes Wide Shut, Abigail Good plays a `Mysterious Woman'. WebThe protagonists mask (Bill Harford, interpreted by Tom Cruise) is a Venetian mask that covers the entire face. (meaning > the Mysterious woman), ME"So..Victor the woman lying dead at the morgue was the> women at the party, well Victor, maybe i'm missing something > but what kind of Charade ends up with someone dead.". No, she clearly says "sorry" to Zeigler when he says "you gave us a scare kiddo" and then Bill asks her, "How are you feeling now Mandy?" ), Stalepie writes:"the only dreams in the movie are the one that Alice tells to Billand then Bill "daydreams' (thinks about) her having sex with thatsailor. That is what she was" implying that her death> is of no consequence because of the low-status manner in which Ziegler> chooses to define her (an identity created and perpetuated by the> Zieglers of the world in the first place), earlier confirmed by his> desire to get the drugged-out Mandy out of his bathroom and house> ("Can we put some clothes on her and get her out of here?" --alt.flame Special Forces"All successful software gets changed." Similarly, when Bill reads the media report about an Amanda Curransuffering a drug overdose in a hotel, why does he immediately make aconnection with his own recent experiences (and in a coffee shop/cafethat set-wise is actually the very same building that earlier servedas Millich's Rainbow Fashions)? Are you suggesting that the people running Somerton would let thewomen there know that there was an interloper? A powerful man realizes one night that his wife has had not one but myriad > not bothering, even, to use them correctly, the way that you are using > them> serves to obfuscate rather than clarify your meaning. Padraig has been writing about film online since 2012, when a friend asked if he'd like to contribute the occasional review or feature to their site. It's "clear," after studying the film after many viewing. Statanic mass? >Apparently word of Bill's entry into the ceremony/orgy traveled fast. ME> Again. Ha ha hah, ha ha hah! Those critics of EWS must have > been delerious. >What else could> he call it? Some will sink but we will float.Grab your coat. My extra-fat dictionary yields the following: "rhi'zome, n. A rootlike stem under or along the ground,ordinarily in a horizontal position, which usually sends out roots fromfrom its lower surface and leafy shoots from its upper surface.". Apparently word of Bill's entry into the ceremony/orgy traveled fast. So maybe they were all wearing walkie talkies under those masks, what do you want me to say..no, this IS left as a huge mystery. Its common sense he was referring to Somerton as the party. People were dancing, there was music wearing costumes, and although it was strange, calling it a "party," would not be unusual in the slightest. > But I agree the way it is done is brilliant and it leaves all of us unsure > of everything, opening up infinite possibilites as to what it all means. He had no reason to think Zeigler was at Somerton, till Zeigler tells him. Other interpretations are floating around, including the idea Alice was also at the party, and while there's no set meaning for how the mask got on that pillow, the idea Alice put it there herself seems to be the prevailing theory. Much as you often dream of people, in a distorted way, whom you met while awake. And if this firgure was Ziegler, why would he subsequentlysend a naked masked woman over to Bill for his benefit? Web .
1925 . '<<<<<<<<<<<> I think it is clear he was referring to the Somerton party. The way Zeigler confirms it was Mandy is matter of fact and it isn't as though Bill seemed surprised at this--even if the audience might still be confused. Lets look at the basic plot of this film. Harry, you are calling him a troll for criticizing your manic, vain and pretentious word salad? He treated her as a not-very-importantpatient; no Mandys attend Bill's upmarket surgery. It is only when Ziegler respondspositively to Bill's question, "The woman at the party is the woman inthe morgue?" Let's get out of here.You're my witness. And didn't Ziegler subsequently admit that the Somerton peopleonly learned of Bill's identity as a result of becoming suspicious ofhis manner of arrival and the costume-rental receipt in his coatpocket? The (unnamed) woman in the mask who warns Doctor Cruise is the same woman who ends up dead in the morgue. I had absolutely no idea you were involved in any way. What a mish mash of mentalmasturbation that is..", " Psycho-semi-freudian-lacanisn-junkie-marxist babbling. <<<<<<<<< mysterious woman first time I saw the film.>>, >> it is clearly the same voice as the "mysterious woman." The 'mystery' is how SHE knows that he is an interloper. It is only when Ziegler respondspositively to Bill's question, "The woman at the party is the woman inthe morgue?" and> pleading with her to take off her mask? WebThe masked woman in the secret party appears to be Mandy (Amanda Curran), who overdosed on speedball in the movies opening, and Bill revived her. Crumb Eye. http://groups.google.com/group/alt.movies.kubrick/browse_frm/thread/16629c3d6011a459/705fb749859063b2?lnk=gst&q=treadmill#705fb749859063b2. and she >> replies, "Better," and then when Bill says, "you are a very lucky girl," >> Mandy says, "I know." WebThere are constant hints throughout the film of it being a story about one man's ego and insecurities. (Just like we dream alone, even if we're in bed with someone else.). How? But which'party' is Bill referring to? We could say that even Nick was in on it and the phone call to Nick in the Jazz club was a set up to pique Bill's interest, even letting Bill knows the password. or psychotherapists. ---people with no idea of the futility and silliness of counting endless grains of sands, with their mental masturbations and perserverations. How? First of all, Mandy must have felt some connection with Bill since he was showing her concern and kindness in the Bathroom. WebSleep Mask for Women, Eye Mask for Sleeping Blindfold Block Out Light and Relieves Dry Eyes with Extra Gel Beads Pad,Super Smooth and Flower Patterns 4.4 4.4 out of 5 stars The genre of Stanley Kubricks last film, based on the well-known story of the Austrian A. Schnitzler, The Novel of Dreams (1925-1926), can be interpreted in different ways. Same voice. When Bill thinks hes just about to score his own sexual liaison, his charade is exposed. Same voice. Eyes Wide Shut is Stanley Kubrick's final movie starring Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman, but what does the mask on the pillow near the end mean? The official cause of death was from a heart attack. I never siad Bill recognized him.we get to recognize him when we study it. In one of the final scenes, Bill comes home and as he comes to bed he sees Alice (Nicole Kidman) sleeping next to the same Venetian mask he wore at the party. Ironically, that is just what power (and Ziegler)would want you to believe - that the world of power and power elitesdoesn't exist, is just all a charade anyway, that those who dorecognise the realities of social power and of desire are justparanoid conspiracy nutters (when in fact it is those whoattribute all that occurs in the film to 'a dream' who are beingproperly paranoid). Those critics of EWS must have been delerious. 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