Seat the magazine and pull the slide back all the way. It now passes the recoil spring test. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. My current set-up is a glockstore tungsten guide rod w/ 13lb spring, TTI Grand Master spring and connector kit, and SRO on a forward controls design plate. I ordered a pierce +0 grip extension that should take care of the pinch and I'll only use round nose in it from now on. Like polishing amounts? AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. FYI it's not the recoil spring. Now I admit I am not sure if this is happening when i take the slide off, but I am guessing not. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I had a stock G19 that was failing to go into battery during live fire. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Break it in!!! On a defensive weapon, quite acceptable. These both assume a stock Glock so YMMV.-----I had a stock G19 that was failing to go into battery during live fire. I think I had a similar problem once. Put ammo in from the same box into my 92A1 and had no issues. Clear editor. Anyways, I noticed when messing around with it that the slide is not going all the way back into battery when I ride the slide forward while holding the trigger back. Then compare frames and see what is different. 3. make sure the plunger is properly installed, take the side apart and push down on the plunger. I appreciate any help or tips you folks might have. The tools. the sig comment was really a non sequitur. If this checks out 17 pounds is for 40 S&W. Is this RSA going to $hit already? My Glock 21SF threaded barrel sucked for the first 100-200 rounds fired, but once it wore in it has been very good. If it does, its hitting that bump too high. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. All Rights Reserved. Timney should be a little more straightforward with their instructions. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. LW barrels are drop in, but they really are more of forced fit. Got the second trigger for the 34.3, dropped in no problem. since it started when you changed the connector, it sounds like its an assembly issue. Lots of creep, but that is by design. Feel the mouth of the case for burrs, etc.. have you considered maybe tossing the Timney in the trash and going back to the trigger youve used for the past 11,000 rounds and using that? I check the recoil spring from time to time the first way Vincent mentioned. The slide stops with the top bullet in the magazine stuck against the feed ramp. releasing the trigger allows it to go the rest of the way home. I put about 600 through it with the extensions with no issues. The lead tech at Suarez International was not only less helpful, but a total jerk about it. Wish I could look at it directly. Your previous content has been restored. Ammo used was all cheap Tula 9mm 115 gr. check the recoil spring. Upload or insert images from URL. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. Glad you got it fixed. I sent 100 rds down range today and no problems. Come join the discussion about optics, holsters, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Seat the magazine and pull the slide back all the way. I am finding that especially when dry-firing, even when I am careful to let the slide "slam" shut, the slide hangs up right before lockup. The issue is the 19 will not go into battery when I pull the slide back. When I pull it all the way back and then release, the slide locks just fine. I can swap the sli. SJ 40, thank you! Or vice down the slide (use wood or thick cardboard not a bare vice or you'll mess up the slide) and push the frame forward toward the muzzle as hard as you can. If it strips a round and goes completely into battery then the recoil spring is at least minimally OK. No lube should be needed on RSA. I have never really seen the need for an "armorer" when working with my Glocks. My Glock trigger was/is the same as my Timney, 2.5#. The slide hangs up on something about 1/2" back. In addition, if you just had the slide (and / or frame) refinished, there is an excellent chance you will need to shoot some rounds to get the coatings thinned out in the right spots. Pics to come soon. NWGlocker Registered Joined Aug 12, 2010 I noticed that even after one dry-fire, the recoil spring assembly drops down a little bit when I take the slide off the frame. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. If that doesn't fix it, take the slide apart in the rear (you can find a YT video of how to take the back plate off) and make sure the springs on the firing pin, extractor and firing pin safety are in their correct orientation and not deformed. Ive played with the trigger a good bit and its still a glock trigger. The problem is, that when I keep the trigger depressed, the gun sometimes hesitates when returning to battery about 1/4" from seating. Knock on wood but I think I may have figured it out with help from many of your suggestions. Something is WRONG, either modifications, misassembled, or maintenance. Pull out a round that chokes the pistol in the manner you are describing. In one range trip (about 350 rounds) and one match this past weekend, I basically can't get through a magazine without multiple failures to go into battery. A couple weeks ago I installed a Timney Trigger with the red return spring. I knew what it felt like from a second 17 I own, so I knew that was the route I wanted to go. You may post anything as long as it is related to the Glock line of pistols, and you are not spamming our sub with your advertisements, sales, YouTube channel. I have a couple Dawson and Henning magazine extensions. A couple thought on the trigger- if you work on the sear engagement, proceed with caution. Never had an issue with the factory barrel. We also have Glock related articles like Tools Used . BrianEnos.com The Glock in question is the G-30SF .45ACP. Yes, the Glock has been altered from stock. I've read through a lot of the big thread on the Timney Trigger, and have searched, and haven't been able to find similar malfunctions happening with the Timney. I noticed while shooting that sometimes the slide will not return back to battery 100%. I have 3 of them and two of the three needed extensive adjustments to the connector and trigger bar cross bar to reset properly and consistently drop the striker. Ive tried swapping the extensions to different mag bodies for what its worth and the result is the same. Found the culprit. sounds to me like the Timney is your problem, not the Glock. They dont always fit perfectly right away. My brand new Glock 19 Gen4 does the exact thing. While dryfiring; with trigger depressed, when I pull the slide backwards about half way to reset it, the side won't go into battery. Did you completely strip the frame when you changed connectors or just the trigger assembly? Just curious as to what Glock said. While you're at it, give the drop safety button a good buffing as well. Hope yours breaks in and the issue clears itself up. I'm going to investigate your suggestions. Its been awhile but isn't that a test on the glock holding the gun upright and dropping the slide with the trigger held? JavaScript is disabled. Usually a problem in the op rod channel or a rail problem. BrianEnos.com For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I know a few guys who shoot sigs and its starting to feel like Ive been trying to make my gun perform more like theirs. It's working fine now. If the slide goes into battery with this test, you've got other issues. Out of a 10 round mag, it averaged 2 or 3 times. Building a V2 soon. Also do you have another 17 handy? It had 2056 through it. I'm in California), but then it stops going forward just short of going into battery. what I was trying to reference was the ' striker safety spring'. Im planning on a press as my next significant purchase. I guess it's best to keep a couple spare recoil springs for the G26 just in case. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, troubleshooting, accessories, classifieds, and more! I'm wondering if it could be a defective recoil spring? I do . You can take the Glock Armorers course and they give you one. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. JavaScript is disabled. Upload or insert images from URL. When it completely hangs I can release the trigger part way and it will snap into battery. If I let It slam shut there is no problem. Just an excuse to try something new. Any ideas on what the issue might be? I'm not sure if you have the stock FPS spring or not. If you really want to fly, get out of the plane. Hopefully that's all it was. It does once I release (reset) the trigger. It is one of the dual captured springs, so there doesn't appear to be much that can be done to "fix" anything. It runs fine when shooting but it you ease the slide forward it stops and does not go into battery unless the trigger is moved forward. If this is only an issue when easing the slide forward than it may not be an issue at all. I'm kinda an apartment dweller with more Barbie dolls than tools (they are my daughters. update looks to be the coating in tight paces, there is some ware marks on the slides where is contacts the frame. Will get some pics next time at the range. I'm wondering if cerakote got in the extractor channel and gummed things up. Great info! By If it would close unless you let the trigger forwardthen it fails the test. Then again, I would caution folks not to expect any new trigger or trigger part is going to be a simple drop in item. Have you tried it with the factory barrel? can your extractor move freely? Unlike aftermarket the factory connectors are true drop in and usually dont need adjustments. I must thank everyone for the replies, you all are the best. Try some hot 124 or 147 factory rds and let me know if it still does it. Don't leave 10mm brass, someone here will be willing to pay cash for them. A bit off the Timney topic, but you might try a Lone Wolf connector with the Overwatch trigger. I haven't had a chance to try a stock magazine yet. Glock slide not going into battery, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK-5Fw3yjcM. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. Haha. I am doing my Armorers class this coming week and planned to bring up the question. When I press the slide release it loads just fine. May be the recoil spring not being in the right seat position. I wonder if it doesn't have enough pressure to hold itself in place. It won't load a round. In the dozen or so that I have built and helped build, I have never had a need to 'file' down a trigger bar safety tab. I have just installed an Agency arms trigger & trigger bar in the gun. Let it forward a little bit and then let go. This may sound crazy but if you or a buddy have a tac light slip it on the rail and try firing again. I haven't fired it yet, but all of the dry functions now work as well as the recoil spring test!!! Ammo from the same box will fire fine in my 92A1 and P228, and G19 with the factory barrel. Come join the discussion about optics, holsters, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! I bought the G19 new, and ive never torn the slide down. I ride the reset BTW - if I didnt, it would be fine. But about 1-2 rounds out of 100 it wouldnt quite go in to battery and Id need to tap the back of the slide slightly to seat it (started off at like 3 in 5 rounds). is your locking block seated correctly? I dont get it, youve been shooting a G34 for quite some time, then you cant get a Timney trigger to work so youre ready to try a Sig? Never an issue with limp wristing so far. 2 Angle the pistol so that the muzzle is pointed straight up. There's too much risk of changing the angle, removing too much material, and or rounding the edges(which will result in decreasing surface area). In the end, you will want to have at least 2/3 to 3/4 of the sear face/firing pin engagement to be safe. In my opinion, I'd suggest the factory rounds (or load a hotter load) and find out if it solves the problem. If I sling shot the slide it works fine but I can't remember any of my other Glocks having problems getting them to go back into battery while riding the slide(when dry firing). so, not a G20 but nearly all G17/19 I built or had the opportunity to help had the part that sticks up on the trigger assembly that pushes on the firing pin safety too high. I pulled out my Timney a month or two ago and went back to Apex. Haha). With Timney I can set off small rifle that I could not with my Glock trigger. That's one reason why using the slide stop is more reliable than pulling back on the slide; because some times shooters will pull it back but then also ease it forward removing momentum and causing the gun to not lock up properly. If the firing pin did not drop then chances are that is the issue. So let's make sure we understand this situation. Any Glock armour out there that can give me some advice? If you aren't getting drag marks on the underneath side of the slide from it, I would leave it be, other than giving it and the bar itself a good polishing. What you describe sounds exactly like what's happening. There are too many to quote, so I will just address the points. I should have added this in the OP. If it goes into battery completely then the recoil spring is at least minimally OK. Another test I've seen done is to load a magazine completely full. Check for it. Everything else seems to be working fine. Ohthis is all with the muzzle pointing straight up. I think the mag springs might have been pretty tight too, 'cause mine seemed to want to hang on the first couple of rounds out of the mag. BTW, the Cold Bore work is really nice! I have to say that with a little tuning my Timney triggers run like no other Glock trigger I have owned and they are really a game changer for Glock pistols if you look closely at how they function! How are you sending the slide forward? A forum community dedicated to glock owners and enthusiasts. I agree with comments a few others have already made that Timney triggers are not necessarily a simple drop in. It has failed to return fully to battery once but every other time, it's a brief hesitation then it snaps into battery. Does it function? Have you tried the field test for the RSA? Oh its not a logical move. This is only going to be used at the range. I couldnt be happier. Another dumb question is are you intimately familiar with taking the gun part and putting it back together? With that said I dont really see how your issue is being caused by the trigger. this is normal for a glock as they are not designed to have the slide closed slowly like this. I pulled out my Timney a month or two ago and went back to Apex. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Your load seems fine to me - adequate for a typical Glock 19 to operate well. I have not stripped the slide but I'm sure I could figure it out if the issue is there. For that matter, 99.99% of dirty unlubricated Glock 23's with stock parts and well worn RSA's will go into battery 99.99% of the time with all but the worst .40 cal ammo. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. You may not post anything that is remotely related to, or tangentially related to, sales, deals, trades of firearms, ammunition, or explosives Per Reddit's Policy r/Glocks, Press J to jump to the feed. I thought of that, but wouldnt a heavier (ie: factory) spring make the issue more likely?, since with the timney its getting cocked as the slide returns to battery? Let it forward a little bit and then let go. I bought a Suarez milled RMR cut slide for my Glock 19 Gen 3 and if I pin the trigger after a shot, it almost never goes back into battery, which makes sense, but sometimes when I shoot correctly and don't pin the trigger it still doesn't go back into battery. Powered by Invision Community. JavaScript is disabled. Firearm Discussion and Resources from AR-15, AK-47, Handguns and more! I only switched because my Glock trigger could only set off certain primers due to the lightness of the springs I needed to get it to work. To check the recoil spring for wear I was told to remove the magazine and empty the gun. Just got my G26 back from Cold Bore Customs and did a quick trigger job, installed a smooth trigger and an extended slide release. 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